What if the biggest risk to the S&P 500 isn’t a recession, rates, or geopolitics — but the way we invest? Amber Kanwar sits down with Michael Green, Portfolio Manager & Chief Strategist, Simplify Asset Management , to unpack a provocative — and deeply unsettling — idea: under certain conditions, the S&P 500 could theoretically go to zero. Not because every company fails, but because market structure breaks.
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- High Income with Built-in Protection — Targets ~8%+ yields (up from ~4.5% pre-rate hikes), benefiting from higher coupons while hedging credit spread widening (the equity-like risk in junk bonds during distress).
- Defensive Overlay — Uses flexible credit hedges (e.g., derivatives mimicking spread behavior with positive carry) to limit drawdowns in stress events like March-April volatility, allowing participation in income without full downside capture.
- Attractive in Rate-Cut Scenarios — If cuts stem from growth (not distress), high-yield benefits; hedges protect if economic weakness widens spreads.
- Use Case — Core income allocation for portfolios seeking yield without heavy equity reliance; acts as a stabilizer amid passive-driven volatility.
This is Green’s directly managed fund—designed for income-focused investors wary of traditional high-yield’s risks.

- Leveraged Gold Exposure + Income — Aims for ~150% gold exposure via futures, plus monthly income from selling call options (monetizing retail-driven implied volatility spikes in gold).
- Cushioned in Downturns — Options income buffers pullbacks relative to spot gold; total return (not just price) matters, as distributions reduce NAV but reflect real performance.
- Strong Recent Performance — Outperforms plain gold bullion by capturing premium-rich environments from leveraged retail/options flows.
- Use Case — Inflation/uncertainty hedge with yield enhancement; ideal for portfolios wanting gold’s diversification without sacrificing income in a rising-price trend.

3. HARD – Simplify Commodities Strategy No K-1 ETF
- Trend-Following with Forced Long Bias — Systematic futures approach (long/short across 20+ commodities) selects positive-trend names with carry/fundamentals; avoids K-1 complexity.
- Inflation Hedge with Better Risk/Reward — Performs in inflationary periods but avoids prolonged underperformance of long-only commodity baskets.
- Aligned with Structural Shifts — Captures electricity/commodity winners while sidestepping declining human-consumption plays.
- Use Case — Diversification and inflation protection in portfolios; complements macro views on demographics and energy transition.

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